T or F...GOD created "EVIL" and the "WASTER" to destroy?
T or F...GOD created "EVIL" and the "WASTER" to destroy?
Elohim is:
Sovereign-
He is the supreme authority in total control of all things.
Omnipresent-
He is present everywhere always.
Omnipotent-
His power is unlimited;
He can do whatever he wills,
whenever he wills; and his will...will be done always.
Omniscient-
He knows all things
which can be known; past present and future.
Elohim is:
the supreme authority who is ever present
has unlimited power and knows all things.
Isaiah 46:9,10
...I am Elohim, and there is none else;
I am Elohim, and there is none like me.
Declaring the end...from the beginning.
1Peter 1:19,20
But with the precious blood of Messiah,
as a lamb without blemish and without spot:
who verily was foreordained before
the foundation of the world,
but was manifested in these last times for you.
Would the all knowing Elohim
prepare a sacrifice for sins at the foundation of the world....
if sin was an unexpected tragedy?
If a scientist creates an experiment or a machine that malfunctions
Is he responsible for the malfunction?
YES!!
Does he hold the experiment or machine responsible?
NO!!
Does he hold Elohim responsible?
NO!!
Why do Christians teach:
If Elohim creates an experiment or a machine that malfunctions
Is he responsible for the malfunction?
NO!!
Does he hold the experiment or machine responsible?
YES!!
Does he hold man responsible?
YES!!
This is not true...
Elohim takes full responsibility
for his creation and all aspects of it; including sin entering the world.
Is it not possible, that Elohim intended for sin to enter the world
and that man, gaining the knowledge of good and evil was necessary in process
of us becoming "in the image of Elohim"?
Or are we to believe...
that the all knowing, all powerful,
unliminted Elohim tried unsuccessfully to make a good creation-
and had no idea of the disaster to come?
And he lacks the power or ability to fix the situation?
Christians also teach:
Adam and Eve were perfect until sin entered the picture.
They were as perfect as Elohim intended for that present period of time.
Rom 8:20-22
For the creature was made subject to vanity not willingly
but by reason of him (Elohim)
who hath subjected the same in hope;
because the creature itself also shall be delivered
from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of Elohim.
For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain until now
Vanity-
empty, vain, profitless, depravity (wickedness)
Bondage-
slavery, subjection
Corruption-
spoil, ruin, deprave defile decay, destroy, perish
Groan-
moan, calamity murmur grief anguish
Travail-
pangs, pain, travail as in birth,
Pain-
anguish, starving
Elohim himself...
subjected the whole creation to vanity
and it is Elohim himself who will deliver
the whole world from the bondage of corruption, pain, and suffering.
Elohim has a plan, a purpose, and a process for his creation.
He is in total control and all is going and will continue to go as planned.
Elohim doesn't just know what will happen in the future;
He causes all that will happen in the future!!
It was not possible.... for Satan not to sin-
He was created for the express purpose of being Elohim's adversary.
And so....of course; he was a sinner from the beginning!!
It was not possible....for Adam and Eve not to sin-
They were created for the express purpose
of being molded into the image of Elohim...
(an on-going process)
They had to eat the forbidden fruit...
As knowing Good and Evil
was a required step in the process of becoming the image of Elohim.
It was Elohim....
who created the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
who placed it in the middle of the garden
who made it desirable
It was Elohim who placed
within Adam and Evethe desires, that would cause them to partake
It was Elohim who placed
Satan the Serpent in the garden to do the tempting.
And it was Elohim
who already planned for Adam and Eves salvation ....
through the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world!!
Elohim is the Creator......not Satan!!
and everything created in this world-
was created by Elohim and for his plan and purposes.....
This includes his creating EVIL:
Isaiah 45:6,7
That they may know
from the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there is none beside me,
I am the Lord, and there is none else.
I form the Light, and create Darkness;
I make Peace and create EVIL:
I the Lord do all these things.
And so it was Elohim himself
who intended from the beginning that Satan and Man would sin.
This does not make Elohim a sinner:
for sin is a mistake
a missing of the mark
a falling short of the glory of Elohim
And Elohim has never made a mistake or fallen short of perfection.
Man is "accountable" for his sins,
because he sinned willingly from the heart,
but Elohim takes "responsibility" for mans sins,
and therefore had already
provided a Saviour... before the foundation of the world.
Christians believe and teach that Satan created himself.
He was a perfect archangel who CHANGED himself into a Devil
Who really created Satan?
John 8:44
You are of your FATHER the DEVIL
(the GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT,
the DEVIL, and SATAN)
Satan-Hebrew for Adversary
I Pet. 5:8 ; Rev. 12:9
and the lusts of your father ye will do...
He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING,
and abode not in the truth (from the beginning),
because there is no truth in him (from the beginning)
When he speakes a lie,
he speakes of his own: for he is a liar (from the beginning),
and the father (the beginner) of it"
Gen 3:1
Now the SERPENT was more subtle
than any beast of the field which the LORD Elohim had ...MADE...
Elohim made this serpent
which talked with Eve as an articulate, intelligent, creature
Satan did not possess this serpent of the field,
Satan was this serpent
Satan doesn’t possess snakes
Satan himself, was CREATED A SERPENT
Even Paul (2Cor11:3) acknowledges
that it was "the SERPENT" that deluded Eve, and not
some other creature possessing a snake
Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between THY SEED and her seed,
it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel
This serpent who shall bruise the heel of Eve’s seed (Messiah)
is clearly Satan (the Devil) who also has seed, (thy seed)
John 8:44
Your are of your father the Devil...
Satan the Devil has "seed";
he is a "father" a father has children and followers of like nature
No snake ever produced a seed that bruised the heel of Jesus
Snakes do not "eat dust" but Satan dines on mankind
1Pet 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour
And he seeks to devour mankind who are "dust" of the earth
Gen 3:19
...for dust thou art....
Job 26:13
By HIS SPIRIT He hath garnished the heavens;
his HAND has FORMED THE CROOKED SERPENT
Elohim garnished the heavens by His SPIRIT,
because they are a thing of great glory, beauty, and splendor
But the CROOKED SERPENT Elohim formed by His "hand"
At arms length indicating
it was something necessary, but not of his heart and spirit
Satan is called "the crooked serpent."
This word crooked comes from a Hebrew word
that is not translated "crooked" anywhere else in the Bible
The word in Hebrew (Strong's #1281) is bariach, and it means "a fugitive"
And "fugitive" is from the Hebrew word nuwa, (Strong’s #5128),
among its several meanings are:
to go up and down," and to and fro, and to sift
Elohim names things according to what they are and what they do
Job 1:7 and 2:2
And the LORD (is this a high enough authority for everyone?)
Said unto SATAN
Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said,
From going TO AND FRO in the earth, and from walking UP AND DOWN in it
It is the
crooked (fugitive) SERPENT SATAN
who goes TO AND FRO and UP AND DOWN in the earth
Elohim created Satan for this purpose
Luke 22:31
And the LORD said (is this a high enough authority for everyone?)
Simon, Simon, behold,
SATAN hath desired to have you, that he may SIFT you as wheat
It is the
crooked (fugitive) SERPENT" SATAN who SIFTS men like wheat
Elohim created Satan for this purpose
Isaiah 54:16
Behold, I have created the smith that blows the coals in the fire,
and that brings forth an instrument for His work
and I have CREATED THE WASTER TO DESTROY
"waster" - Hebrew#7843 shachath, decay, ruin, batter, cast off, corrupt, destroy,
lose, mar, perish, spill spoil...UTTERLY WASTE...
(page 115, Strong’s Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary)
Elohim created the "WASTER,"
not the archangel who later supposedly became Satan,
but from the BEGINNING Elohim said
He created "The WASTER" and He created him "TO DESTROY"
And who's role is it
to "destroy" the flesh of man so that the spirit may be saved?
1Cor 5:4-5
In the name of our Lord Yahushuah Messiah,
when you are gathered together,
and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Yahushuah Messiah
To deliver such an one UNTO SATAN for DESTRUCTION of the flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus
It is SATAN who was created from his very beginning
to be "the WASTER to DESTROY"
men’s flesh (carnal mindedness) so that they learn not to blaspheme (I Tim. 1:20)
Satan started with Adam and Eve and he isn’t finished...
2Cor 11:14
And no marvel (to wonder with ASTONISHMENT)
for Satan himself is transformed
(to change the outward form or appearance, to make GLORIOUS)
into an ANGEL OF LIGHT
Isaiah 45:5-7
I am the LORD, and there is none else,
there is no Elohim beside me: I girded you, though you have not known me:
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there none beside me.
I am the LORD, and there is none else.
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL:
I the LORD do ALL THESE THINGS
(even the creation of evil and even the creation of Satan)
Satan is evil..
Elohim created evil...
Elohim CREATED SATAN...
1John 3:8
He that commits sin
is of the DEVIL (Adversary, Satan) for the Devil SINS FROM THE BEGINNING.
For this purpose the Son of Elohim
was manifested, that He might destroy the WORKS of the Devil
So....
was it AFTER a supposed "Lucifer archangel"
metamorphosed into Satan that he sinned,
or did Satan the Adversary sin "from the BEGINNING?
Satan was not once a perfect and glorious archangel!!
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28
do not actually mean what the Christians teach
.
Christians claim... that a
PERFECT AND GLORIOUS LIGHT-BRINGING ARCHANGEL
CHANGED HIMSELF INTO SATAN THE DEVIL,
whereas we just read in the divine, inspired, infallible, Word of God
that it is SATAN THE DEVIL
WHO HAS TRANSFORMED HIMSELF
INTO A PERFECT AND GLORIOUS ANGEL OF LIGHT
The Scriptures teach the opposite from what Christians are teaching
But it is necsssary that they teach this lie,
because it is mandatory that they deny
every Scripture that says Elohim CREATED EVIL or EVIL CREATURES
It doesn’t fit their theology
They must find a way that allows Elohim to torture
billions of people in fire without being evil Himself or even responsible for doing so
The origin of sin and evil must be placed on the creature rather than the Creator
This way the creature is responsible for everything
and the Creator is responsible for nothing
And so it is stated... that men CHOOSE to go
into the lake of fire and suffer eternal pain,
and Elohim's hands are tied
by a doctrine that Satan has planted into the hearts of all men everywhere
And just what is it, specifically...
that gave this fictitious archangel
the ability to metamorphose himself into a devil?
Which thing also then permits
Elohim to torture humanity eternally in fire, without it being His fault?
Which thing also empowers man (free will) with the ability to thwart
the VERY WILL OF GOD ALMIGHTY?
http://myspace.com/water_spirit_blood
Elohim is:
Sovereign-
He is the supreme authority in total control of all things.
Omnipresent-
He is present everywhere always.
Omnipotent-
His power is unlimited;
He can do whatever he wills,
whenever he wills; and his will...will be done always.
Omniscient-
He knows all things
which can be known; past present and future.
Elohim is:
the supreme authority who is ever present
has unlimited power and knows all things.
Isaiah 46:9,10
...I am Elohim, and there is none else;
I am Elohim, and there is none like me.
Declaring the end...from the beginning.
1Peter 1:19,20
But with the precious blood of Messiah,
as a lamb without blemish and without spot:
who verily was foreordained before
the foundation of the world,
but was manifested in these last times for you.
Would the all knowing Elohim
prepare a sacrifice for sins at the foundation of the world....
if sin was an unexpected tragedy?
If a scientist creates an experiment or a machine that malfunctions
Is he responsible for the malfunction?
YES!!
Does he hold the experiment or machine responsible?
NO!!
Does he hold Elohim responsible?
NO!!
Why do Christians teach:
If Elohim creates an experiment or a machine that malfunctions
Is he responsible for the malfunction?
NO!!
Does he hold the experiment or machine responsible?
YES!!
Does he hold man responsible?
YES!!
This is not true...
Elohim takes full responsibility
for his creation and all aspects of it; including sin entering the world.
Is it not possible, that Elohim intended for sin to enter the world
and that man, gaining the knowledge of good and evil was necessary in process
of us becoming "in the image of Elohim"?
Or are we to believe...
that the all knowing, all powerful,
unliminted Elohim tried unsuccessfully to make a good creation-
and had no idea of the disaster to come?
And he lacks the power or ability to fix the situation?
Christians also teach:
Adam and Eve were perfect until sin entered the picture.
They were as perfect as Elohim intended for that present period of time.
Rom 8:20-22
For the creature was made subject to vanity not willingly
but by reason of him (Elohim)
who hath subjected the same in hope;
because the creature itself also shall be delivered
from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of Elohim.
For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain until now
Vanity-
empty, vain, profitless, depravity (wickedness)
Bondage-
slavery, subjection
Corruption-
spoil, ruin, deprave defile decay, destroy, perish
Groan-
moan, calamity murmur grief anguish
Travail-
pangs, pain, travail as in birth,
Pain-
anguish, starving
Elohim himself...
subjected the whole creation to vanity
and it is Elohim himself who will deliver
the whole world from the bondage of corruption, pain, and suffering.
Elohim has a plan, a purpose, and a process for his creation.
He is in total control and all is going and will continue to go as planned.
Elohim doesn't just know what will happen in the future;
He causes all that will happen in the future!!
It was not possible.... for Satan not to sin-
He was created for the express purpose of being Elohim's adversary.
And so....of course; he was a sinner from the beginning!!
It was not possible....for Adam and Eve not to sin-
They were created for the express purpose
of being molded into the image of Elohim...
(an on-going process)
They had to eat the forbidden fruit...
As knowing Good and Evil
was a required step in the process of becoming the image of Elohim.
It was Elohim....
who created the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
who placed it in the middle of the garden
who made it desirable
It was Elohim who placed
within Adam and Evethe desires, that would cause them to partake
It was Elohim who placed
Satan the Serpent in the garden to do the tempting.
And it was Elohim
who already planned for Adam and Eves salvation ....
through the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world!!
Elohim is the Creator......not Satan!!
and everything created in this world-
was created by Elohim and for his plan and purposes.....
This includes his creating EVIL:
Isaiah 45:6,7
That they may know
from the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there is none beside me,
I am the Lord, and there is none else.
I form the Light, and create Darkness;
I make Peace and create EVIL:
I the Lord do all these things.
And so it was Elohim himself
who intended from the beginning that Satan and Man would sin.
This does not make Elohim a sinner:
for sin is a mistake
a missing of the mark
a falling short of the glory of Elohim
And Elohim has never made a mistake or fallen short of perfection.
Man is "accountable" for his sins,
because he sinned willingly from the heart,
but Elohim takes "responsibility" for mans sins,
and therefore had already
provided a Saviour... before the foundation of the world.
Christians believe and teach that Satan created himself.
He was a perfect archangel who CHANGED himself into a Devil
Who really created Satan?
John 8:44
You are of your FATHER the DEVIL
(the GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT,
the DEVIL, and SATAN)
Satan-Hebrew for Adversary
I Pet. 5:8 ; Rev. 12:9
and the lusts of your father ye will do...
He was a murderer FROM THE BEGINNING,
and abode not in the truth (from the beginning),
because there is no truth in him (from the beginning)
When he speakes a lie,
he speakes of his own: for he is a liar (from the beginning),
and the father (the beginner) of it"
Gen 3:1
Now the SERPENT was more subtle
than any beast of the field which the LORD Elohim had ...MADE...
Elohim made this serpent
which talked with Eve as an articulate, intelligent, creature
Satan did not possess this serpent of the field,
Satan was this serpent
Satan doesn’t possess snakes
Satan himself, was CREATED A SERPENT
Even Paul (2Cor11:3) acknowledges
that it was "the SERPENT" that deluded Eve, and not
some other creature possessing a snake
Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between THY SEED and her seed,
it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel
This serpent who shall bruise the heel of Eve’s seed (Messiah)
is clearly Satan (the Devil) who also has seed, (thy seed)
John 8:44
Your are of your father the Devil...
Satan the Devil has "seed";
he is a "father" a father has children and followers of like nature
No snake ever produced a seed that bruised the heel of Jesus
Snakes do not "eat dust" but Satan dines on mankind
1Pet 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour
And he seeks to devour mankind who are "dust" of the earth
Gen 3:19
...for dust thou art....
Job 26:13
By HIS SPIRIT He hath garnished the heavens;
his HAND has FORMED THE CROOKED SERPENT
Elohim garnished the heavens by His SPIRIT,
because they are a thing of great glory, beauty, and splendor
But the CROOKED SERPENT Elohim formed by His "hand"
At arms length indicating
it was something necessary, but not of his heart and spirit
Satan is called "the crooked serpent."
This word crooked comes from a Hebrew word
that is not translated "crooked" anywhere else in the Bible
The word in Hebrew (Strong's #1281) is bariach, and it means "a fugitive"
And "fugitive" is from the Hebrew word nuwa, (Strong’s #5128),
among its several meanings are:
to go up and down," and to and fro, and to sift
Elohim names things according to what they are and what they do
Job 1:7 and 2:2
And the LORD (is this a high enough authority for everyone?)
Said unto SATAN
Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said,
From going TO AND FRO in the earth, and from walking UP AND DOWN in it
It is the
crooked (fugitive) SERPENT SATAN
who goes TO AND FRO and UP AND DOWN in the earth
Elohim created Satan for this purpose
Luke 22:31
And the LORD said (is this a high enough authority for everyone?)
Simon, Simon, behold,
SATAN hath desired to have you, that he may SIFT you as wheat
It is the
crooked (fugitive) SERPENT" SATAN who SIFTS men like wheat
Elohim created Satan for this purpose
Isaiah 54:16
Behold, I have created the smith that blows the coals in the fire,
and that brings forth an instrument for His work
and I have CREATED THE WASTER TO DESTROY
"waster" - Hebrew#7843 shachath, decay, ruin, batter, cast off, corrupt, destroy,
lose, mar, perish, spill spoil...UTTERLY WASTE...
(page 115, Strong’s Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary)
Elohim created the "WASTER,"
not the archangel who later supposedly became Satan,
but from the BEGINNING Elohim said
He created "The WASTER" and He created him "TO DESTROY"
And who's role is it
to "destroy" the flesh of man so that the spirit may be saved?
1Cor 5:4-5
In the name of our Lord Yahushuah Messiah,
when you are gathered together,
and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Yahushuah Messiah
To deliver such an one UNTO SATAN for DESTRUCTION of the flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus
It is SATAN who was created from his very beginning
to be "the WASTER to DESTROY"
men’s flesh (carnal mindedness) so that they learn not to blaspheme (I Tim. 1:20)
Satan started with Adam and Eve and he isn’t finished...
2Cor 11:14
And no marvel (to wonder with ASTONISHMENT)
for Satan himself is transformed
(to change the outward form or appearance, to make GLORIOUS)
into an ANGEL OF LIGHT
Isaiah 45:5-7
I am the LORD, and there is none else,
there is no Elohim beside me: I girded you, though you have not known me:
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there none beside me.
I am the LORD, and there is none else.
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL:
I the LORD do ALL THESE THINGS
(even the creation of evil and even the creation of Satan)
Satan is evil..
Elohim created evil...
Elohim CREATED SATAN...
1John 3:8
He that commits sin
is of the DEVIL (Adversary, Satan) for the Devil SINS FROM THE BEGINNING.
For this purpose the Son of Elohim
was manifested, that He might destroy the WORKS of the Devil
So....
was it AFTER a supposed "Lucifer archangel"
metamorphosed into Satan that he sinned,
or did Satan the Adversary sin "from the BEGINNING?
Satan was not once a perfect and glorious archangel!!
Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28
do not actually mean what the Christians teach
.
Christians claim... that a
PERFECT AND GLORIOUS LIGHT-BRINGING ARCHANGEL
CHANGED HIMSELF INTO SATAN THE DEVIL,
whereas we just read in the divine, inspired, infallible, Word of God
that it is SATAN THE DEVIL
WHO HAS TRANSFORMED HIMSELF
INTO A PERFECT AND GLORIOUS ANGEL OF LIGHT
The Scriptures teach the opposite from what Christians are teaching
But it is necsssary that they teach this lie,
because it is mandatory that they deny
every Scripture that says Elohim CREATED EVIL or EVIL CREATURES
It doesn’t fit their theology
They must find a way that allows Elohim to torture
billions of people in fire without being evil Himself or even responsible for doing so
The origin of sin and evil must be placed on the creature rather than the Creator
This way the creature is responsible for everything
and the Creator is responsible for nothing
And so it is stated... that men CHOOSE to go
into the lake of fire and suffer eternal pain,
and Elohim's hands are tied
by a doctrine that Satan has planted into the hearts of all men everywhere
And just what is it, specifically...
that gave this fictitious archangel
the ability to metamorphose himself into a devil?
Which thing also then permits
Elohim to torture humanity eternally in fire, without it being His fault?
Which thing also empowers man (free will) with the ability to thwart
the VERY WILL OF GOD ALMIGHTY?
http://myspace.com/water_spirit_blood
Add a Comment
About
Travel with Spirit® Magazine
Member of Women in Christian Media
Badge
Events
-
Xist Urban Gospel Cruise
September 17, 2010 at 5pm to September 19, 2010 at 7am – Bahamas
Videos
© 2009 Created by hkorngold on Ning. Create Your Own Social Network
You need to be a member of Christian Travel Social Network to add comments!
Join this social network